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PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED

58 HUGH STREET, LONDON, SW1V 4ER,
Company Registration Number
03620286
Private Limited Company
Liquidation

Company Overview

About Panmer Plastics (uk) Ltd
PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED was founded on 1998-08-24 and has its registered office in London. The organisation's status is listed as "Liquidation". Panmer Plastics (uk) Limited is a Private Limited Company registered in with Companies House and the accounts submission requirement is categorised as TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
  • Annual turnover is £6.5 million or less
  • The balance sheet total is £ 3.26 million or less
  • Employs 50 or less employees
  • Company is exempt from audit
Key Data
Company Name
PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED
 
Legal Registered Office
58 HUGH STREET
LONDON
SW1V 4ER
Other companies in HA0
 
Filing Information
Company Number 03620286
Company ID Number 03620286
Date formed 1998-08-24
Country 
Origin Country United Kingdom
Type Private Limited Company
CompanyStatus Liquidation
Lastest accounts 31/03/2016
Account next due 31/12/2017
Latest return 01/10/2015
Return next due 29/10/2016
Type of accounts TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
VAT Number /Sales tax ID GB719173721  
Last Datalog update: 2018-09-05 01:06:34
Primary Source:Companies House
There are multiple companies registered at this address, the registered address may be the accountant's offices for PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED
There are multiple accountancy firms based at this address. The accountancy firm could be one of these:   AJAY ASSOCIATES LIMITED   AMBA ACCOUNTANCY LTD   ASSETS LICENSED TRADE LIMITED   DENHAM WALK ASSOCIATES LIMITED   PRAVIN HIRANI LTD   TARTANHEART CONSULTANCY LIMITED
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Company Officers of PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED

Current Directors
Officer Role Date Appointed
NIMESH SHAH
Company Secretary 1998-08-24
NIMESH SHAH
Director 1998-08-24
PANKAJ SHAH
Director 2007-06-21
RISHI ANIL SHAH
Director 2000-03-01
Previous Officers
Officer Role Date Appointed Date Resigned
VIPUL MOTICHAND SHAH
Director 1998-08-24 2000-02-29
SAME-DAY COMPANY SERVICES LIMITED
Nominated Secretary 1998-08-24 1998-08-24
WILDMAN & BATTELL LIMITED
Nominated Director 1998-08-24 1998-08-24

Related Directorships

Officer Related Company Role Date Appointed Role StatusIncorporation dateCompany Status
NIMESH SHAH PANGADGETS (UK) LTD. Director 2013-07-17 CURRENT 2013-07-17 Active - Proposal to Strike off
PANKAJ SHAH PANGADGETS (UK) LTD. Director 2013-07-17 CURRENT 2013-07-17 Active - Proposal to Strike off
PANKAJ SHAH PAN GADGETS LIMITED Director 2009-06-22 CURRENT 2009-06-22 Dissolved 2014-07-22
RISHI ANIL SHAH R&R HOLDINGS LIMITED Director 2017-05-31 CURRENT 2017-05-31 Active
RISHI ANIL SHAH AMAZING BEYOND LTD Director 2017-01-12 CURRENT 2017-01-12 Active
RISHI ANIL SHAH PANGADGETS (UK) LTD. Director 2013-07-17 CURRENT 2013-07-17 Active - Proposal to Strike off

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Corporation Filing History
Companies House Filing History
This is a record of the public documents (corporate filing) lodged from Companies House where the company has filed annual returns and other statutory filing documents. Examples of documents filed include: change of registered office, accounts filing, director/officer appointments & resignations, changes in share capital, shareholder members lists etc.

DateDocument TypeDocument Description
2018-03-23LIQ03NOTICE OF PROGRESS REPORT IN VOLUNTARY WINDING UP:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 19/01/2018:LIQ. CASE NO.1
2017-10-19AD01REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 19/10/2017 FROM ALBEMARLE HOUSE 1 ALBEMARLE STREET LONDON W1S 4HA
2017-02-08AD01REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 08/02/2017 FROM UNITS 4 & 5 DELTA CENTRE MOUNT PLEASANT WEMBLEY MIDDLESEX HA0 1XU
2017-02-064.70DECLARATION OF SOLVENCY
2017-02-06600NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT OF LIQUIDATOR (VOLUNTARY)
2017-02-06LRESSPSPECIAL RESOLUTION TO WIND UP
2016-12-19AA31/03/16 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2016-11-12LATEST SOC12/11/16 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100
2016-11-12CS01CONFIRMATION STATEMENT MADE ON 01/10/16, WITH UPDATES
2016-01-15MR01REGISTRATION OF A CHARGE / CHARGE CODE 036202860002
2015-12-30AA31/03/15 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2015-11-19LATEST SOC19/11/15 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100
2015-11-19AR0101/10/15 FULL LIST
2015-07-03MR04STATEMENT OF SATISFACTION OF A CHARGE / FULL / CHARGE NO 1
2014-12-30AA31/03/14 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2014-10-08LATEST SOC08/10/14 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100
2014-10-08AR0101/10/14 FULL LIST
2014-01-30AA31/03/13 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2013-10-11LATEST SOC11/10/13 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100
2013-10-11AR0101/10/13 FULL LIST
2013-10-11CH01DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR RISHI SHAH / 01/09/2012
2013-10-11CH01DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR PANKAJ SHAH / 01/09/2012
2013-10-11CH03SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / NIMESH SHAH / 01/09/2012
2012-12-28AA31/03/12 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2012-09-17AR0124/08/12 FULL LIST
2011-12-28AA31/03/11 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2011-12-15AR0124/08/11 FULL LIST
2010-12-23AA31/03/10 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2010-11-11AR0124/08/10 FULL LIST
2010-11-11CH01DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / NIMESH SHAH / 01/10/2009
2010-02-03AA31/03/09 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2009-12-07AR0124/08/09 FULL LIST
2009-01-30AA31/03/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2008-12-05363aRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2008-01-08AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/07
2008-01-04363aRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2007-07-26288aNEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
2007-01-18AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/06
2006-10-17363aRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2006-07-03363aRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2006-02-04AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/05
2005-02-09363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2005-02-01AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/04
2004-02-04AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/03
2003-08-26363(288)DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
2003-08-26363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/03; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2003-02-07AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/03/02
2003-02-07225ACC. REF. DATE SHORTENED FROM 31/08/02 TO 31/03/02
2002-10-18363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/02; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2002-07-02AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/08/01
2002-01-03363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/01; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2001-08-02AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/08/00
2001-07-18287REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 18/07/01 FROM: EBC HOUSE TOWNSEND LANE LONDON NW9 8LL
2001-02-06363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/00; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2000-08-29AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/08/99
2000-03-21288aNEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
2000-03-21288bDIRECTOR RESIGNED
1999-11-27395PARTICULARS OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE
1999-10-05363sRETURN MADE UP TO 24/08/99; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
1999-09-2888(2)RAD 24/09/98--------- £ SI 98@1=98 £ IC 2/100
1998-08-26288aNEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
1998-08-26288bSECRETARY RESIGNED
1998-08-26287REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 26/08/98 FROM: BRIDGE HOUSE 181 QUEEN VICTORIA STREET LONDON EC4V 4DD
1998-08-26288aNEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
1998-08-26288bDIRECTOR RESIGNED
1998-08-24NEWINCINCORPORATION DOCUMENTS CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
Industry Information
SIC/NAIC Codes
22 - Manufacture of rubber and plastic products
222 - Manufacture of plastics products
22220 - Manufacture of plastic packing goods

22 - Manufacture of rubber and plastic products
222 - Manufacture of plastics products
22290 - Manufacture of other plastic products



Licences & Regulatory approval
We could not find any licences issued to PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED or authorisation from an industry specific regulator to operate. These may not be required.
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Risks
Legal Notices
Notices to Creditors2017-01-30
Appointment of Liquidators2017-01-30
Resolutions for Winding-up2017-01-30
Fines / Sanctions
No fines or sanctions have been issued against PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED
Liabilities
Mortgages / Charges
Total # Mortgages/Charges 2
Mortgages/Charges outstanding 1
Mortgages Partially Satisifed 0
Mortgages Satisfied/Paid 1
Details of Mortgagee Charges
Charge Type Date of Charge Charge Status Mortgagee
CHATTEL MORTGAGE 1999-11-27 Outstanding LOMBARD NORTH CENTRAL PLC
Creditors
Creditors Due After One Year 2012-04-01 £ 156,187

Creditors and other liabilities

Filed Financial Reports
Annual Accounts
2013-03-31
Annual Accounts
2014-03-31
Annual Accounts
2015-03-31
Annual Accounts
2016-03-31

These are the financial reports (either an abhreviated set of accounts or profit& loss statement and balance sheet) have been filed with Companies House. The reports allow you to do a basic business credit check on PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED

Financial Assets
Balance Sheet
Called Up Share Capital 2012-04-01 £ 160
Cash Bank In Hand 2012-04-01 £ 168,766
Current Assets 2012-04-01 £ 446,529
Debtors 2012-04-01 £ 210,763
Fixed Assets 2012-04-01 £ 3,785
Shareholder Funds 2012-04-01 £ 294,127
Stocks Inventory 2012-04-01 £ 67,000
Tangible Fixed Assets 2012-04-01 £ 3,784

Debtors and other cash assets

Intangible Assets
Patents
We have not found any records of PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED registering or being granted any patents
Domain Names

PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED owns 2 domain names.

panmer.co.uk   stampitandbinit.co.uk  

Trademarks
We have not found any records of PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED registering or being granted any trademarks
Income
Government Income
We have not found government income sources for PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED. This could be because the transaction value was below £ 500 with local government or below £ 25,000 for central government. We have found 8,000 supplier to government that are UK companies so approx 0.2% of companies listed on Datalog supply to government.

The top companies supplying to UK government with the same SIC code (22220 - Manufacture of plastic packing goods) as PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED are:

Outgoings
Business Rates/Property Tax
No properties were found where PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED is liable for the business rates / property tax. This could be for a number of reasons.
  • The council hasnt published the data
  • We havent found or been able to process the councils data
  • The company is part of a group of companies and another company in the group is liable for business rates
  • The registered office may be a residential address which does not have a commercial designation. If the business is run from home then it won't be a commercial property and hence won't be liable for business rates.
  • Serviced offices are increasingly popular and therefore a business may not be paying business rates directly - the building owner is and this is incorporated in the office rental charge.
Import/Export of Goods
Goods imported/exported by PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED
OriginDestinationDateImport CodeImported Goods classification description
2015-07-0169120010Tableware, kitchenware, other household articles and toilet articles, of common pottery (excl. statuettes and other ornamental articles, pots, jars, carboys and similar receptacles for the conveyance or packing of goods, and coffee grinders and spice mills with receptacles made of ceramics and working parts of metal)
2015-07-0184243001Water cleaning appliances with built-in motor, with heating device
2015-07-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2015-03-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2015-02-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2015-02-0195030095Plastic toys, n.e.s.
2015-01-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2015-01-0195030095Plastic toys, n.e.s.
2014-12-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2014-12-0195030095Plastic toys, n.e.s.
2014-11-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2014-11-0195030095Plastic toys, n.e.s.
2014-09-0184243001Water cleaning appliances with built-in motor, with heating device
2014-09-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2014-09-0195030099Toys, n.e.s.
2014-06-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2014-04-0195030099Toys, n.e.s.
2014-03-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2013-12-0139204990Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight < 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of > 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)
2013-12-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2013-10-0149019900Printed books, brochures and similar printed matter (excl. those in single sheets; dictionaries, encyclopaedias, periodicals and publications which are essentially devoted to advertising)
2013-10-0149119900Printed matter, n.e.s.
2013-10-0161046900Women's or girls' trousers, bib and brace overalls, breeches and shorts of textile materials, knitted or crocheted (excl. of wool, fine animal hair, cotton or synthetic fibres, panties and swimwear)
2013-10-0169120090Ceramic tableware, kitchenware, other household articles and toilet articles (excl. sinks, baths, bidets and similar sanitary fixtures; statuettes and other ornamental articles; pots, jars, etc. for the conveyance or packing of goods; household mills with containers of ceramics and working parts of metal; articles of porcelain or china, common pottery, stoneware, earthenware or fine pottery)
2013-10-0185044030Static converters of a kind used with telecommunication apparatus, automatic data-processing machines and units thereof
2013-10-0185182200Multiple loudspeakers, mounted in the same enclosure
2013-10-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2013-09-0139204990Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight < 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of > 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)
2013-07-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2013-04-0139204310Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight >= 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of <= 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)
2013-04-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2013-02-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2012-11-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2012-10-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2012-08-0139204310Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight >= 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of <= 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)
2012-05-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2012-04-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2012-01-0139204990Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight < 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of > 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)
2011-11-0187131000Carriages for disabled persons, not mechanically propelled
2011-10-0148201030Notebooks, letter pads and memorandum pads, without calendars, of paper or paperboard
2011-09-0139209990Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular plastics, n.e.s., not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, those of addition polymerization, condensation and rearrangement polymerization products, floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918 and sterile surgical or dental adhesion barriers of subheading 3006.10.30)
2010-10-0139261000Office or school supplies, of plastics, n.e.s.
2010-10-0163014090Blankets and travelling rugs of synthetic fibres (excl. knitted or crocheted, electric, table covers, bedspreads and articles of bedding and similar furnishing of heading 9404)
2010-04-0139204390Plates, sheets, film, foil and strip, of non-cellular polymers of vinyl chloride, containing by weight >= 6% of plasticisers, of a thickness of > 1 mm, not reinforced, laminated, supported or similarly combined with other materials, without backing, unworked or merely surface-worked or merely cut into squares or rectangles (excl. self-adhesive products, and floor, wall and ceiling coverings of heading 3918)

For goods imported into the United Kingdom, only imports originating from outside the EU are shown

Legal Notices/Action
Initiating party Event TypeNotices to Creditors
Defending partyPANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITEDEvent Date2017-01-30
I, Nimish Patel (IP number 8679) of Re10 (London) Limited, Albemarle House, 1 Albemarle Street, London W1S 4HA give notice that I was appointed liquidator of the above named company on 20 January 2017 by a resolution of members. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the creditors of the above named company which is being voluntarily wound up, are required, on or before 27 February 2017 to prove their debts by sending to the undersigned Nimish Patel of Re10 (London) Limited, Albemarle House, 1 Albemarle Street, London, W1S 4HA the Liquidator of the Company, written statements of the amounts they claim to be due to them from the company and, if so requested, to provide such further details or produce such documentary evidence as may appear to the liquidator to be necessary. A creditor who has not proved this debt before the declaration of any dividend is not entitled to disturb, by reason that he has not participated in it, the distribution of that dividend or any other dividend declared before his debt was proved. THIS NOTICE IS PURELY FORMAL AND ALL KNOWN CREDITORS HAVE BEEN OR WILL BE PAID IN FULL. Further information about this case is available from Harshita Kale at the offices of Re10 (London) Limited on 020 7355 6161 or at harshita@re10.co.in. Nimish Chandrakant Patel , Liquidator Dated: 24 January 2017
 
Initiating party Event TypeAppointment of Liquidators
Defending partyPANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITEDEvent Date2017-01-20
Nimish Chandrakant Patel of Re10 (London) Limited , Albemarle House, 1 Albemarle Street, London W1S 4HA : Further information about this case is available from Harshita Kale at the offices of Re10 (London) Limited on 020 7355 6161 or at harshita@re10.co.in.
 
Initiating party Event TypeResolutions for Winding-up
Defending partyPANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITEDEvent Date2017-01-20
At a Special Meeting of the members of the above named company, duly convened and held at Ashleigh Mann & Co., 79 College Road, Middlesex HA1 1BD on 20 January 2017 at 1.30 pm the following resolutions were duly passed: 1. A special resolution "That the company be wound up voluntarily." 2. An ordinary resolution "That Nimish Patel of Re10 (London) Limited, Albemarle House, 1 Albemarle Street, London W1S 4HA is hereby appointed liquidator of the company for the purposes of the winding up". 3. A special resolution that the liquidators be and is hereby authorised to distribute among the members in specie or in kind the whole or any part of the assets of the company. 4. A special resolution that the liquidator be and are hereby authorised under the provisions of Section 165(2)(a) of the Insolvency Act 1986 to exercise the powers laid down in Part 1 of Schedule 4 of the said Act". Office Holder Details: Nimish Chandrakant Patel (IP number 8679 ) of Re10 (London) Limited , Albemarle House, 1 Albemarle Street, London W1S 4HA . Date of Appointment: 20 January 2017 . Further information about this case is available from Harshita Kale at the offices of Re10 (London) Limited on 020 7355 6161 or at harshita@re10.co.in. Mr Nimesh Shah , Chairman of the Meeting :
 
Government Grants / Awards
Technology Strategy Board Awards
The Technology Strategy Board has not awarded PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED any grants or awards. Grants from the TSB are an indicator that the company is investing in new technologies or IPR
European Union CORDIS Awards
The European Union has not awarded PANMER PLASTICS (UK) LIMITED any grants or awards.
Ownership
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