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CONNECT 2 LIMITED

ASTUTE HOUSE, WILMSLOW ROAD, HANDFORTH, CHESHIRE, SK9 3HP,
Company Registration Number
02053170
Private Limited Company
Liquidation

Company Overview

About Connect 2 Ltd
CONNECT 2 LIMITED was founded on 1986-09-08 and has its registered office in Handforth. The organisation's status is listed as "Liquidation". Connect 2 Limited is a Private Limited Company registered in with Companies House and the accounts submission requirement is categorised as SMALL
Key Data
Company Name
CONNECT 2 LIMITED
 
Legal Registered Office
ASTUTE HOUSE
WILMSLOW ROAD
HANDFORTH
CHESHIRE
SK9 3HP
Other companies in SK9
 
Filing Information
Company Number 02053170
Company ID Number 02053170
Date formed 1986-09-08
Country 
Origin Country United Kingdom
Type Private Limited Company
CompanyStatus Liquidation
Lastest accounts 31/12/2010
Account next due 30/09/2012
Latest return 12/06/2011
Return next due 10/07/2012
Type of accounts SMALL
Last Datalog update: 2018-09-07 13:50:50
Primary Source:Companies House
There are multiple companies registered at this address, the registered address may be the accountant's offices for CONNECT 2 LIMITED
There are multiple accountancy firms based at this address. The accountancy firm could be one of these:   AD FINANCIAL SERVICES LIMITED   TJC ACCOUNTANCY SERVICES LIMITED
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Companies with same name CONNECT 2 LIMITED
The following companies were found which have the same name as CONNECT 2 LIMITED. These may be the same company in different jurisdictions
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CONNECT 2 (CHESHIRE) LIMITED Merecroft, Earles Lane Wincham Northwich CHESHIRE CW9 6EA Active - Proposal to Strike off Company formed on the 2005-03-22
CONNECT 2 (DEVON) LIMITED NEGYS GORTHYBOW SCHOONERS BUSINESS PARK BESS PARK ROAD WADEBRIDGE CORNWALL PL27 6HB Dissolved Company formed on the 2005-09-23
CONNECT 2 (FRANCHISING) LIMITED REGENCY HOUSE 21 THE ROPEWALK 21 THE ROPEWALK NOTTINGHAM NG1 5DU Dissolved Company formed on the 2002-10-23
CONNECT 2 (NORTHANTS) LIMITED CHARLES HOUSE 6 REGENT PARK WELLINGBOROUGH NORTHANTS NN8 6GR Active Company formed on the 2003-11-25
CONNECT 2 AGENCIES LIMITED NELSON HOUSE, GASKELL STREET BOLTON BOLTON LANCASHIRE BL1 2QS Dissolved Company formed on the 2003-06-30
CONNECT 2 CARDIFF LTD RIVERSIDE COURT BEAUFORT PARK WAY CHEPSTOW MONMOUTHSHIRE NP16 5UH Active - Proposal to Strike off Company formed on the 2011-11-21
CONNECT 2 CARE LIMITED SUITE F4, BLUESKY BUSINESS CENTRE, 25 CECIL PASHLEY WAY SHOREHAM AIRPORT SHOREHAM-BY-SEA BN43 5FF Active Company formed on the 2008-10-10
CONNECT 2 CENTRAL LIMITED 3 CASTLE COURT CARNEGIE CAMPUS DUNFERMLINE FIFE KY11 8PB Dissolved Company formed on the 2005-02-03
CONNECT 2 CLEANROOMS LIMITED FIFTH FLOOR, 5 NEW STREET SQUARE LONDON EC4A 3BF Active Company formed on the 2003-10-16
CONNECT 2 COLOUR LIMITED UPLANDS COURT STOWUPLAND ROAD STOWMARKET SUFFOLK IP14 5AN Active Company formed on the 2011-11-21
CONNECT 2 COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED 43 BRIDGE ROAD GRAYS GRAYS ESSEX RM17 6BU Dissolved Company formed on the 1994-11-16
CONNECT 2 COMMUNITY LIMITED UPLANDS COURT STOWUPLAND ROAD STOWMARKET SUFFOLK IP14 5AN Dissolved Company formed on the 2011-07-12
CONNECT 2 CONNECT LTD 10 HEATHER AVENUE ABBEYMEAD GLOUCESTER GLOUCESTERSHIRE GL4 5UX Dissolved Company formed on the 2013-02-19
CONNECT 2 DATA LIMITED 6 ROTHERFIELD WAY EMMER GREEN READING RG4 8PL Active - Proposal to Strike off Company formed on the 2002-01-14
CONNECT 2 ELECTRICAL SERVICES LTD 17 OLD PEPPER LANE STANDISH WIGAN WN6 0PH Active Company formed on the 2011-08-02
CONNECT 2 EXPERTS LIMITED SUITE 428 39A BARTON ROAD WATER EATON BLETCHLEY BUCKS MK2 3HW Dissolved Company formed on the 2006-10-30
CONNECT 2 FURNITURE LIMITED OFFICE 15 UNIT 3 STOUR VALLEY BUSINESS CENTRE BRUNDON LANE SUDBURY SUFFOLK CO10 7GB Dissolved Company formed on the 2010-09-21
CONNECT 2 GROW LTD 25 DALEWOOD WELWYN GARDEN CITY HERTFORDSHIRE AL7 2JP Dissolved Company formed on the 2012-09-14
CONNECT 2 INNOVATION LTD SUNDIAL HOUSE 98 HIGH STREET HORSELL WOKING SURREY GU21 4SU Active - Proposal to Strike off Company formed on the 2009-05-19
CONNECT 2 MARKETING LLP 14 OLD SCHOOL APARTMENTS UPPER ALLAN STREET BLAIRGOWRIE PH10 6FG Active Company formed on the 2006-10-03

Company Officers of CONNECT 2 LIMITED

Current Directors
Officer Role Date Appointed
DAVID CLARKE
Company Secretary 2005-10-25
HILARY CLARKE
Director 1991-06-12
MICHAEL JOHN CLARKE
Director 1996-04-22
PETER FREDERICK CLARKE
Director 1991-06-12
Previous Officers
Officer Role Date Appointed Date Resigned
HILARY CLARKE
Company Secretary 1991-06-12 2005-10-25
JACQUELINE ANN CAMM
Director 1991-06-12 2000-12-01
STEPHEN JOSEPH CAMM
Director 1991-06-12 2000-12-01

Related Directorships

Officer Related Company Role Date Appointed Role StatusIncorporation dateCompany Status
MICHAEL JOHN CLARKE WATERSIDE (WOODLEY) MANAGEMENT LIMITED Director 2009-09-18 CURRENT 2006-02-14 Active
MICHAEL JOHN CLARKE CONNECT TWO LIMITED Director 2007-04-11 CURRENT 1998-06-10 Active

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Corporation Filing History
Companies House Filing History
This is a record of the public documents (corporate filing) lodged from Companies House where the company has filed annual returns and other statutory filing documents. Examples of documents filed include: change of registered office, accounts filing, director/officer appointments & resignations, changes in share capital, shareholder members lists etc.

DateDocument TypeDocument Description
2018-02-262.34BNOTICE OF MOVE FROM ADMINISTRATION TO CREDITORS VOLUNTARY LIQUIDATION
2018-01-23LIQ10NOTICE OF REMOVAL OF LIQUIDATOR BY COURT IN MVL AND CVL:LIQ. CASE NO.2:IP NO.00008739
2018-01-23600NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT OF LIQUIDATOR (VOLUNTARY)
2017-09-19LIQ03NOTICE OF PROGRESS REPORT IN VOLUNTARY WINDING UP:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 08/07/2017:LIQ. CASE NO.2
2016-09-214.68LIQUIDATOR'S STATEMENT OF RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 08/07/2016
2015-09-154.68LIQUIDATOR'S STATEMENT OF RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 08/07/2015
2014-09-104.68LIQUIDATOR'S STATEMENT OF RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 08/07/2014
2013-07-222.24BADMINISTRATOR'S PROGRESS REPORT:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 09/07/2013
2013-07-16600NOTICE OF APPOINTMENT OF LIQUIDATOR (VOLUNTARY)
2013-07-092.34BNOTICE OF MOVE FROM ADMINISTRATION TO CREDITORS VOLUNTARY LIQUIDATION
2013-07-012.17BSTATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATOR'S PROPOSALS
2013-02-042.23BNOTICE OF RESULT OF MEETING OF CREDITORS
2013-01-292.23BNOTICE OF RESULT OF MEETING OF CREDITORS
2013-01-252.24BADMINISTRATOR'S PROGRESS REPORT:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 19/12/2012
2013-01-252.31BNOTICE OF EXTENSION OF PERIOD OF ADMINISTRATION
2012-09-072.24BADMINISTRATOR'S PROGRESS REPORT:BROUGHT DOWN DATE 07/08/2012
2012-04-182.23BNOTICE OF RESULT OF MEETING OF CREDITORS
2012-03-272.16BNOTICE OF STATEMENT OF AFFAIRS/2.14B
2012-02-27AD01REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 27/02/2012 FROM UNIT 8 RUGBY PARK BLETCHLEY ROAD STOCKPORT CHESHIRE SK4 3EJ UNITED KINGDOM
2012-02-152.12BNOTICE OF ADMINISTRATOR'S APPOINTMENT
2011-12-01MISCSECTION 519
2011-09-08AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/10
2011-06-27LATEST SOC27/06/11 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 67
2011-06-27AR0112/06/11 FULL LIST
2010-08-27AA31/12/09 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2010-07-05AR0112/06/10 FULL LIST
2010-07-02CH01DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR PETER FREDERICK CLARKE / 01/04/2010
2010-07-02CH01DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MRS HILARY CLARKE / 31/03/2010
2010-04-09AD01REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/04/2010 FROM EMERY HOUSE 192 HEATON MOOR ROAD STOCKPORT CHESHIRE SK4 4DU
2009-07-30AA31/12/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2009-07-17363aRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2008-08-11AA31/12/07 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
2008-06-24363aRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2007-08-30AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/06
2007-06-14363aRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2007-06-14288cDIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
2006-08-09AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/05
2006-06-23363aRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2005-10-27288aNEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
2005-10-26288bSECRETARY RESIGNED
2005-07-19AATOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/12/04
2005-06-21363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2004-06-25AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/03
2004-06-16363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/04; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2003-06-28363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/03; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2003-06-03AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/02
2002-08-20AAACCOUNTS FOR 'MEDIUM' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/01
2002-07-01363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/02; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2001-06-16ELRESS366A DISP HOLDING AGM 09/05/01
2001-06-16AAACCOUNTS FOR 'MEDIUM' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/00
2001-06-16363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/01; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
2001-06-16ELRESS252 DISP LAYING ACC 09/05/01
2001-06-16ELRESS386 DISP APP AUDS 09/05/01
2001-01-08169£ IC 100/67 01/12/00 £ SR 33@1=33
2000-12-18288bDIRECTOR RESIGNED
2000-12-18288bDIRECTOR RESIGNED
2000-10-19AAACCOUNTS FOR 'MEDIUM' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/99
2000-07-11363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/00; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
1999-10-22AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/98
1999-07-08363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/99; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS
1998-10-05MEM/ARTSMEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
1998-08-26AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/97
1998-08-14CERTNMCOMPANY NAME CHANGED CONNECT TWO LIMITED CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 17/08/98
1998-08-05403aDECLARATION OF SATISFACTION OF MORTGAGE/CHARGE
1998-06-25363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/98; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
1997-08-07AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/96
1997-07-08363sRETURN MADE UP TO 12/06/97; NO CHANGE OF MEMBERS
1996-09-03AAACCOUNTS FOR 'SMALL' CO. MADE UP TO 31/12/95
Industry Information
SIC/NAIC Codes
4531 - Installation electrical wiring etc.



Licences & Regulatory approval
We could not find any licences issued to CONNECT 2 LIMITED or authorisation from an industry specific regulator to operate. These may not be required.
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Legal Notices
Notice of Intended Dividends2016-08-31
Notice of Intended Dividends2014-05-09
Appointment of Liquidators2013-07-17
Meetings of Creditors2012-03-28
Appointment of Administrators2012-02-15
Fines / Sanctions
No fines or sanctions have been issued against CONNECT 2 LIMITED
Liabilities
Mortgages / Charges
Total # Mortgages/Charges 1
Mortgages/Charges outstanding 0
Mortgages Partially Satisifed 0
Mortgages Satisfied/Paid 1
Details of Mortgagee Charges
Charge Type Date of Charge Charge Status Mortgagee
OVER CREDIT BALANCE 1990-07-04 Satisfied NATIONAL WESTMINSTER BANK PLC
Filed Financial Reports
Annual Accounts
2010-12-31
Annual Accounts
2009-12-31
Annual Accounts
2008-12-31

These are the financial reports (either an abhreviated set of accounts or profit& loss statement and balance sheet) have been filed with Companies House. The reports allow you to do a basic business credit check on CONNECT 2 LIMITED

Intangible Assets
Patents
We have not found any records of CONNECT 2 LIMITED registering or being granted any patents
Domain Names
We do not have the domain name information for CONNECT 2 LIMITED
Trademarks
We have not found any records of CONNECT 2 LIMITED registering or being granted any trademarks
Income
Government Income
We have not found government income sources for CONNECT 2 LIMITED. This could be because the transaction value was below £ 500 with local government or below £ 25,000 for central government. We have found 8,000 supplier to government that are UK companies so approx 0.2% of companies listed on Datalog supply to government.

The top companies supplying to UK government with the same SIC code (4531 - Installation electrical wiring etc.) as CONNECT 2 LIMITED are:

Outgoings
Business Rates/Property Tax
No properties were found where CONNECT 2 LIMITED is liable for the business rates / property tax. This could be for a number of reasons.
  • The council hasnt published the data
  • We havent found or been able to process the councils data
  • The company is part of a group of companies and another company in the group is liable for business rates
  • The registered office may be a residential address which does not have a commercial designation. If the business is run from home then it won't be a commercial property and hence won't be liable for business rates.
  • Serviced offices are increasingly popular and therefore a business may not be paying business rates directly - the building owner is and this is incorporated in the office rental charge.
Legal Notices/Action
Initiating party Event TypeNotice of Intended Dividends
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITEDEvent Date2016-08-31
Court & Court Reference for Administration: High Court of Justice Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry No 2198 of 2012 Date of Administration & Appointment of Joint Administrators: 8 February 2012 Date of Liquidation & Appointment of Joint Liquidators: 9 July 2013 NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN pursuant to Rule 11.2 of the Insolvency Rules 1986 (as amended), that we, Mark Beesley (IP No 8739) and Tracy Mary Clowry (IP No 9562), the Joint Liquidators (and former Joint Administrators) of the above named company, intend declaring a Second and Final Dividend for Creditors (All Claims) within two months of the last date of proving which is 30 September 2016. Creditors who have not already proved their debts are required, on or before 30 September 2016, to submit their proof of debt to us at Beesley Corporate Solutions, Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP and, if so requested by us, to provide such further details or produce such documentary or other evidence as may appear to be necessary. A creditor who has not proved his debt before the date specified above is not entitled to disturb, by reason that he has not participated in it, the dividend so declared. Further information about this case is available from Gareth Hunt at the offices of Beesley Corporate Solutions on 01625 469155 or at gareth@beesley.co.uk. Mark Beesley and Tracy Mary Clowry , Joint Liquidators Dated 30 August 2016
 
Initiating party Event TypeNotice of Intended Dividends
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITEDEvent Date2014-05-01
In the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry case number 2198 The Insolvency Act 1986 Notice is hereby given pursuant to Rule 11.2 of the Insolvency Rules 1986 (as amended), that we, Mark Beesley (IP No 8739) and Tracy Mary Clowry (IP No 9562), the former Joint Administrators and current Joint Liquidators of the above named company, intend declaring a First Dividend for Creditors (All Claims) within two months of the last date of proving which is 30 May 2014. Creditors who have not already their debts are required, on or before 30 May 2014, to submit their proof of debt to us at Beesley Corporate Solutions, Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP and, if so requested by us, to provide such further details or produce such documentary or other evidence as may appear to be necessary. A creditor who has not proved his debt before the date specified above is not entitled to disturb, by reason that he has not participated in it, the dividend so declared. For further details, please contact us Telephone: 01625 544 795 Email: mark@beesley.co.uk or tracy@beesley.co.uk Alternatively, contact: Derek Ross Telephone: 01625 469 153 Email: derek@beesley.co.uk
 
Initiating party Event TypeMeetings of Creditors
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITED (FORMERLY IN ADMINISTRATION)Event Date2014-04-25
In the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry case number 2198 Notice is hereby given, pursuant to Rule 4.54 of the Insolvency Rules 1986 a general Meeting of the Creditors of the above named company will be held at the offices of Beesley Corporate Solutions, Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP on 14 May 2014 at 10.00 am. The purpose of the meeting is to consider the application for sanction for the Joint Liquidators to pursue legal actions against the officers of the company under S238/S239/S214 of the Insolvency Act 1986, and for sanction to compromise the claims totalling 67,000. A Creditor is entitled to attend and vote at the above meeting or may appoint a proxy to attend and vote instead of him. It is it not necessary for the proxy-holder to be a Member or a Creditor. Proxy forms must be returned to the offices of Beesley Corporate Solutions, Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP by no later than 12 noon on the last business day before the meeting. Any enquiries regarding the above should be directed to the Joint Liquidators on telephone number 01625 544 795 or by email; mark@beesley.co.uk or tracy@beesley.co.uk. Alternatively, contact Derek Ross: derek@beesley.co.uk or telephone 01625 544 795
 
Initiating party Event TypeAppointment of Liquidators
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITEDEvent Date2013-07-09
In the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry case number 2198 Mark Beesley and Tracy Mary Clowry , Beesley Corporate Solutions , Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP . Further Details: mark@beesley.co.uk or tracy@beesley.co.uk . Alternatively contact derek@beesley.co.uk or Tel: 01625 544795 :
 
Initiating party Event TypeMeetings of Creditors
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITEDEvent Date2012-02-08
In the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry case number 2198 Notice is hereby given, as required by Rule 2.35 (4) of the Insolvency Rules 1986 (as amended), that a meeting of creditors of the above named company is to take place. The meeting is an initial creditors meeting under Legislation section: Paragraph 51 of Schedule B1 to the Legislation: Insolvency Act 1986 (as amended). The meeting will be held at the offices of Beesley & Company , Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth SK9 3HP on 4 April 2012 at 2.00 pm . A proxy form is available that should be completed and returned to us at the offices of Beesley & Company , Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth SK9 3HP by the date of the meeting, if you cannot attend and wish to be represented. Under Rule 2.38 of the Insolvency Rules 1986, in order to be entitled to vote at the meeting you must give to us at the offices of Beesley & Company , not later than 12 noon on the business day before the day fixed for the meeting, details in writing of your claim. Further information about this case is available, from the Joint Administrators or Derek Ross on 01625 544 777 or email at derek@beesley.co.uk. Mark Beesley , (IP No: 8739) and Tracy M Clowry (IP No 9562), Joint Administrators of Beesley & Company , Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth SK9 3HP Date of Administration: 8 February 2012 .
 
Initiating party Event TypeAppointment of Administrators
Defending partyCONNECT 2 LIMITEDEvent Date2012-02-08
In the High Court of Justice, Chancery Division, Manchester District Registry case number 2198 Mark Beesley and Tracy Mary Clowry , (IP Nos 8739 and 9562 ) Beesley & Company , Astute House, Wilmslow Road, Handforth, Cheshire SK9 3HP . Further Details: Contact: Pat Muir/Joint Administrators, Telephone: 01625 544777 or email: pat@beesley.co.uk , mark@beesley.co.uk , tracy@beesley.co.uk :
 
Government Grants / Awards
Technology Strategy Board Awards
The Technology Strategy Board has not awarded CONNECT 2 LIMITED any grants or awards. Grants from the TSB are an indicator that the company is investing in new technologies or IPR
European Union CORDIS Awards
The European Union has not awarded CONNECT 2 LIMITED any grants or awards.
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